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Posted on: 01/09/2007
Posted by: GetTheDeed
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I thought I'd chime in with a good example of a Subject-To deal that I completed in my first year of investing.  

 A seller called me from a bandit sign to say they had a home that was going into foreclosure.  They told me on the phone that the house had become a major source of pain with them and all they wanted was for me to give them enough money to move into a new place so they could start over.  

 They owed approximately $105,000 for the house and I figured it's ARV (after repaired value) to be around $180,000.  This was a deal, if I could pull it off.

 I immediately scheduled a face to face appointment and when I saw the house it needed carpet, paint, a couple new doors, new kitchen countertops, and landscaping.  Other than that, it was in good shape. 

I found out that $3000 would be enough to get the sellers where they wanted to go.  I agreed to reinstate the mortgage and make their monthly payment while I cleaned up the house, got a tenant buyer and waited until the tenant buyer refinanced to cash me out.  I made all the proper disclosures in writing, which is very important.  I got the deed signed at a notary to secure my interest and give them a little cash to get packed up, and scheduled a normal closing through escrow.  

 After giving them the rest of their cash and reinstating the mortgage, I borrowed enough cash from a private lender to complete the rehab, and I found a tenant buyer within a month of finishing the remodel.  The market in my area was hot at the time, and I was able to get a 12-month lease option at $215,000, which was much higher than I originally thought.

My tenant buyer's decided to cash me out after 5 months, so when I walked out of closing I carried a check for $102,247.89.  After buying, rehab, holding, and selling costs, I netted about $76,000.  Not too bad for about 30 hours of work.

 

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cperkcpa

Posted By: cperkcpa on 12/27/2009

Thanks for sharing a great example of how a subject to can work. 

 
GetTheDeed

Posted By: GetTheDeed on 05/05/2009

greyhound, 

Taxes are written off by the property owner, regardless of who's on the mortgage.  Since the loan is still in the seller's name, it will show up on their credit report, and will be considered a debt.  Therefore, if they were to apply for a new loan, they would have to show that the loan is being paid by a third party so their debt-to-income will not be out of whack.  There are payment services which can report your tenants payments to the credit bureaus so their credit will improve while they lease your house.  Hope this helps.

Mike

 
greyhound

Posted By: greyhound on 04/20/2009

I get bogged down in the specifics that I don't understand.  The seller keeps the loan in his name and I'm paying the mortgage.  Who gets the write off on taxes?  How does this affect the sellers ability to buy another house given the income-debt ratio?  When I sell the house with a wrap which includes the original sub-to loan, the mortgage pymt comes to me and I divy it up--some to the original loan company, some to me.  Can I submit info to the credit bureaus so that the new buyer can show he's paying on time and has a mortgage (which in itself will raise his score)?  How is that done?

Rene

 
Colin
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Posted By: Colin on 11/23/2007
You know this is one of the top 5 read blogs out of thousands that are on here sumsky!

Congrats. How you been bro?? You hear about Dicke? He's married! haha.

Colin
 
MRSHORTSALE

Posted By: MRSHORTSALE on 09/10/2007

Now thats what I'm talkin about! I must be trying too hard, because those kind of deals have not come my way yet! But I'm not going anywhere! Keep on inspiring young rookies like myself!!

 
Ryan Ely

Posted By: Ryan Ely on 09/05/2007
Outstanding! What a great deal and story, thanks!
 
cbfis1

Posted By: cbfis1 on 08/29/2007

Such a sweet deal.  I remember when, here in RI things were heating up and those deals were easy.  Then the attorney generals office cracked down on that type of thing.  Too many homeowners took the money, took your deal, some even moved out only to file a formal complain against the investor.  A few cases here...big companies were caught in the crossfire.  Unfair deal!  The judgements, fines etc. were unbelievable.  Shortly thereafter, RI enacted laws to protect the consumer in such matters.  What!!  The laws are tough and only apply to those practicing "legally".  The state also states that a separate license is required, yet there are no mechanics at this time to actually become licensed.  Typical.

cbfis

 
WeberREsolutions

Posted By: WeberREsolutions on 05/25/2007

I have one question, How did you handle the mortgage payments? Did you pay the mortgage company direct? Here in Indiana the attorney general has crack down. foreclosed home owners are taking the investor money but then sue the investor for stealing their home. How do you protect yourself from this?

 

 
crystalwillett
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Posted By: crystalwillett on 05/17/2007
that is an amazing story... great work!!!
 
shellikm

Posted By: shellikm on 03/26/2007

wow, that's awesome and gives me such hope and confidence!!

I'm meeting with 2 motivated sellers today and I'm hoping to sign at least one of them.  Sound very similar to yours in potential profit, both only have about 10 days to sell or cure the foreclosure.

wish me luck!