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Posted on: 03/16/2007
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Tax season is here. So is the busy season for real estate professionals. This being the case, I always try to get my taxes done ASAP. That means that I get them in by the end of January and I get my return by the middle of February. This way, I have more of my CPA's attention and I'm not killing myself trying to do my complicated taxes during the busiest time of my work year. For the last couple of years I've filed a 1099 C along with my regular w-2 wages. My other jobs have been sporadic and the self employed income is the only way I can prove a steady job for the last 2 years (which is required for most loans). Still, when I'm getting financing for a loan, be it a purchase or a refi, I can't actually show my tax documents because an underwriter or mortgage professional is responsible for any information that they receive, even if it's not what I intended them to see. (I should know this, I'm a mortgage professional. And, when I'm doing a "stated" loan, I always go out of my way to tell my clients NOT to show me any income documentation, because after that I have to use the numbers that I've seen, even if they are only part of the client's income, etc.) Anyway, the way that a self employed borrower proves the consistency of thier employment without compromising they're stated income is this: they get a letter from the person that prepared their taxes which states that the taxes were prepared by a licenced tax professional and that there was self employment income filed in a 1099 C. That's all. This is the case with my situation. And I have a warning for all of you. Choose a CPA that is willing to write the letter. Find out if they are willing ahead of time. Last year, I had to the letter from H&R Block and there was no problem. This year, a different person with H&R did my taxes and this particular person gave me the sharpest, rudest remarks I've heard in a long time, and insisted that she doesn't write letters of any sort on behalf of anyone, and that she didn't care if it meant I couldn't refinance. This may never happen to you. But I would encourage you to take steps to insure that it doesn't. For starters, ask about it before you start submitting your tax information. Second, choose a better, more experienced CPA than I did. I won't use H&R block again and I will spend more money next year to make sure that things are done right and that I'm treated with respect. It's no fun to be treated like your nothing more than a number. I wouldn't treat any of my clients that way and I don't think you would either. Unfortunately, there are people who are not a concientious as we are.
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Ksyrium

Posted By: Ksyrium on 04/12/2007
Awesome & timely Information for me!  Self employed and looking to purchase my 1st house in a couple months - Thank You!!!!
 
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Posted By: Matt Miller - Content Director on 03/16/2007
Good advice. And definitely never to to H&R unless you wanna pay too much and get too little.
 
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Posted By: Colin on 03/16/2007

Abe,

After experiencing the benefits as well as the complications of filing 1099s for most of my adult life, I can completely relate to you, buddy.

Isn't it funny how the government and the people who run it proclaim that they are small business friendly until you try to get a car loan or secure other financing as one?

I'll say with 100% accuracy that the majority of investors I've met focus on being investors and then scramble with the books and at tax season, paying way too much in taxes, setting up their books wrong, or not doing them at all.

Why?

The most successful investors do what they do best and delegate to others everything else. Taxes and Accounting should be the same way!

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Check out our soon to be CFO, who's a tax and Quick books certified ninja who helps out REI and my real estate biz not only being "defensive" with saving us money but more importantly, "offensive," showing us how to use our revenues, cash, and credit more intelligently to make INCREASE PROFITS.

Alex Miller

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Check out what his company does and whether you give him a call or not, look for someone with abilities to serve in the capacity that Alex can. He's not cheap, there are cheaper CPAs out there, but in my opinion, with Attorneys, Accountants, Realtors, or any other highly specialized person on your team, you don't want CHEAP, you want EFFECTIVE and you want TALENT.

Abe, thanks for bringing this subject up, this is not the most fun subject for investors, but without doubt, one of the most IMPORTANT.

Take it to the next level in '07!! Money mouth

Colin Egbert

P.S. Don't hesitate to give Alex a call but do me a favor and don't be one of those folks that just try to fish as much knowledge from a professional as possible without any real intention of using their services........We, REI members, have too much class to play those games!!

 
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Posted By: Real Estate Queen on 03/16/2007

Sorry you had to go through that.

I too have had a hard time finding a CPA Real Estate Investor Professional who Only deals with Real Estate Investor . " We can not go to a CPA that have No Clue on what kind of Credits, Discounts etc. we Real Estate Investors are allowed to claim.

Maria