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JohnCorey Category: Finance and Credit
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Posted on: 03/16/2008
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There is the principal of unintended consequences. You do something to improve the situation but other changes also happen that you were not fully expecting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unintended_consequence

Below is one example.


The US Fed decided to increase liquidity in the banking system. It injected capital to the tune of about $200 billion. They also broaden the number of assets they would accept in exchange for capital from the Fed.

Note - The Fed facility very similar to asset based lending or hard money where the borrower provides assets to raise cash and the deal is based on the assets value).

Carlyle Capital Corporation (CCC) was actually hurt by the Fed's action even though the fund held mostly Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac AAA rated securities (mortgage backed loans which the two semi-government organizations packaged into bonds and sold on). Take a look at the following three paragraphs from an article in the Financial Times where they do a good job of explaining what happened.

In response to the credit woes ripping through the financial system, the Fed this week unveiled a new $200bn securities lending facility that will allow dealers to swap hard-to-finance mortgage securities, such as the $21.7bn held by CCC, for Treasuries.

The Fed intervention was designed to help, but in the case of CCC it had the reverse effect, said Mr Rubenstein in an interview with the Financial Times only hours after walking away from frantic, last-minute talks with banks this week.

He said that the banks realised that because of the Fed’s intervention, the underlying assets of CCC were worth more, which only made them more determined to seize its assets quickly and crystallise that value by selling some.


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c531f716-f216-11dc-9b45-0000779fd2ac.html
[Anyone know how to turn the above line into a hot link so you can just click on it?]

Why is the above important? Two reasons.

1. Fannie and Freddie are the folks who buy conforming loans and set the standards for what conforming means. They are the two elephants in the market. If their securities are not liquid they will not be buying many conforming mortgages. There will be even less money available for home loans.

2. When the S&L banking crisis happened in the US a couple of decades ago many successful RE investors were hurt. Banks pulled their credit lines and otherwise shut them off. Business models that depended on capital being available ground to a halt. Overheads killed the businesses when they could no longer keep doing deals. Many times there was nothing wrong with the borrower or the business model. The banks just ran out of money.


Care to discuss further?


John Corey
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Posted By: Real Estate Investor on 03/16/2008

"There is the principal of unintended consequences. You do something to improve the situation but other changes also happen that you were not fully expecting. "

I thought for a second this blog was about Iraq.

Sean

 
JohnCorey
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Posted By: JohnCorey on 03/16/2008
Jeff, We can debate this further if you like. I am not sure it needs to take place here. It will take years before we know if what you are suggesting will come to pass. Old rules, new rules, what rules have actually changed? Securitizing mortgages is what Fannie Mae has been doing since it was set up in 1936. Banks needed a way to offer long term fixed financing without the long term interest rate rises (borrow short, lend long is what banks do when they set up mortgages which they hold on their books). Not that prior to 1936 mortgages had a 5 year call. That is a key factor why foreclosures reached close to 50% during the Great Depression. Was it Mark Twain that said 'History does not repeat, it rhymes.' It is different this time as it has been every time. How exactly it will play out is not known as we have not been here before. Most of the issues in OH are build on a weak economy vs. the bubble issues in FL, CA and other regions. The 'problem' is not the same problem in all the markets. That is why some have still been rising while others recover from a bubble. John Corey
 
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Posted By: Jeff_Tumbarello on 03/16/2008

the problem is, they have lent and lost money, and they do not have the money to replace it. It was never their money to lend in the first place. We made all these "new rules", well, the old rules are time tested. We should have stuck with them.

what to know why I know this?

The Fed has not published M3 since 2006

all of these companies went away from common sense and just made paper to sell, it was a mania, pure and simple.

Its now time to pay the band

You made a comment on my blog about, the New Reso. Trust

The REO's are not being sold, due to the fact the CDO will be sold to the "Term Securities Lending Facility"

think about it, they borrow money to stay afloat, the securitys ar ethe pledge, when they default, ( some are going to default, its a given, and a litle class action in Ohio may make this really cool to watch) the fed takes over, its a watered down version of the trust reso, all over, no matter how things change they stay the same

I have been yelling this message into the dark for a while, their is another voice with me yelling

My friend attended the Luncheon in DC friday that Uncle Ben spoke at. His Intermediary was given evidence to trace the losses from the Hinderlands to the street.

 

Do you know what Uncle Ben's forte is?